Talk:Holocron:HoloProject Astrography

Other Regions

Raith, can you develop maps for the remaining Regions, like you have done for Deep Core,Core Worlds, and Colonies. We need to make a post on the forums alerting Sector,System, and Planet controllers to fill in the information, which will allow us to mainly focus on the regions. --Prard`aga Rono 07:38, 7 May 2014 (GMT)

I've a bit swamped from work till end of May. I intend to do the other Regions and create the sector pages as well. --Raith Starlight 01:14, 17 May 2014 (GMT)

Wild Space and Unknown Regions

The definitions of Wild Space and Unknown Regions are a bit fluid even in canon but I think we ought to redefine and reclassify Wild Space as sectors that haven't been explored yet. I had created a category, Category:Unexplored Sectors but it seems better to rename as Wild Space instead. For Unknown Regions, we can maintain it as systems without a sector like Huk and Csilla. Any opinions on this? --Raith Starlight 03:29, 19 April 2014 (GMT)

It does seem fitting for Wild Space to refer the Sectors that have yet to be explored. -- Prard`aga Rono 05:44, 19 April 2014 (GMT)

Sounds logical. I agree. -- Rupert Havok 07:58, 19 April 2014 (GMT)

I don't want to seem picky, but I am. ;-) The definition "unexplored sector" is not appropriate because who knows exactly whether a sector has been explored or not? Also, the fact that a sector appears as empty on the galactic map doesn't mean forcibly that it was not explored. People can explore sectors and find nothing. I would get rid of the idea that empty sectors are unexplored, but I don't understand the difference between "wild space" and "deep space". As for "unknown regions", the canon states one or more reasons why they are unknown, one of them being that strange and strong magnetic fields make it very difficult for instruments to navigate and detect space hazards. For this, I'd keep the "unknown regions" for the canon use. --Ruben Wan 13:53, 19 April 2014 (GMT)

Okay for the definition Wild Space, how about the sectors that were empty when system search was enabled back in Year 13? Since at the moment, the admins have set them as one of two locations where hidden systems could be. The other being systems that are homeworlds for races which could be in previously occupied sectors. That gives us a tighter definition and goes with the spirit of what Wild Space was in canon, ie the frontier of exploration. As for the difference between "wild space" and "deep space", I like to think of it as "wild space" being we don't know what's out there and "deep space" being we know nothing is there (ie interstellar void and the like).

As for Unknown Regions, I agree with the canon use and so far the canon use seems to be applicable to Csilla and Huk as they lie outside the "known galaxy" (ie the contiguous sectors). Originally the Admin Sector contained both systems but it seems the admins recently moved Csilla into its own sector --Raith Starlight 15:12, 19 April 2014 (GMT)

The definition of "Wild Space" does appear to be fluid, but I do like the proposal. What I would suggest is that we start with the Year 13 and say "Do we have an areas with more than two or more adjacent empty sectors?", then those areas are determined to be "Wild Space". -- Prard`aga Rono 02:57, 21 April 2014 (GMT)

Additional pages for Astrography

I started a page about comets time ago, and one about asteroids some more time ago. They could be included in the Astrography, perhaps adding general pages on what a planet or a star is. My idea about this kind of pages is to keep the scientific text quite simple, but adding some colour by mentioning special planets or stars. For example, the page about Star could mention the only one blue star in the galaxy (Ota system), or the Hook Nebula six-star system. --Ruben Wan 13:53, 19 April 2014 (GMT)

This is a good idea, especially the idea of pointing out weird stars (six-star Hook Nebula and blue star). We definitely could use a generic article for all the suns (probably could include a reference to some famous people sunning themselves in the past). --Raith Starlight 15:12, 19 April 2014 (GMT)

This is kind of related to history but should we classify this period of system searching after Galaxy 2.0 (Year 13 - Present) as the Second Great Manifest Period in homage to the canon Great Manifest Period? This would allow us to aggregate information about the recently discovered systems along with events surrounding them. The backstory could be that the Bureau of Ships and Services collapsed at the end of the First Galactic Civil War (apparently Clone Wars of canon, if I'm not mistaken) so the mapping of the galaxy was brought out of sync. We can retcon the Galaxy 1.0 to 2.0 transition as the Bureau of Ships and Services being reformed and the mapping of the galaxy being restandardized once again. Due to the aforementioned war, there are gaps in the star charts which are designated as Wild Space so there is a rush to rediscover systems lost since the collapse of the Bureau. The rush to explore Wild Space could be tied to the tax planet changes (deflationary changes brought by lower labor supply as a result of the colonization efforts), Metamorphosis Virus and Great Animosity Plague (substandard sanitation brought by rush to colonize intensifying its spread). --Raith Starlight 15:12, 19 April 2014 (GMT)

Star System Pages in SWC Rules and in the Holocron wiki

I remember to have read somewhere in the wiki that the Holocron must not replace or clone the pages in the Rules as for systems, items, entities such as ships and vehicles... Rather the Holocron should expand or add special or specific information to that entity or system. What is the current rationale for creating new system pages on the Holocron? What should be done and should be avoided? Thanks in advance for your suggestions and ideas. --Ruben Wan 13:53, 19 April 2014 (GMT)

I'm also aware of that rule. So far, I've been adding only newly discovered systems so they fit a certain pattern (naming convention, basic infobox). I had intended to bug whoever discovered the system to add a blurb so it gets populated with more information but never could find the time. The reason for adding newly discovered systems is because they're still fresh in our minds so we'd remember who took part in them (ie slabbing, building or even fighting over a few of them) --Raith Starlight 15:12, 19 April 2014 (GMT)