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Templates and categories

We should be glad for every good template we get. If we have conflicting templates or categories I suggest a vote between the two of them. But people should be allowed to create them in the first place.--Dreighton 17:02, 22 February 2011 (GMT)

In my experience handling wikis, for every good template you'll go through three people making terrible ones. Then when we're having people copy things without looking from other wikis, they'll also bring along different templates, which creates inconsistency. If people want to use templates that's well and fine, but it needs some kind of order to it otherwise you'll have competing ones and no resolution because it will constantly reoccur. Orphaea Imperium 17:05, 22 February 2011 (GMT)
I agree that the process of improving them and replacing less good designs with better once can be time consuming and tedious. As a resolution in case of conflict I just suggested a vote. Often this will not even be necessary, if you give some time for people to find the better solution. Inconsistincies don't concern me. For sure not at this point. Why is it important that all templates are exactly the same or following the same pattern, especially if sometimes the differences are very small? What I am advocating is to encourage people to get involved in making things better. This includes encouraging them to consider an alternative template and not just mindlessly stick to just what they already know. Or take the time to add good templates to articles that use insuficient ones.--Dreighton 17:14, 22 February 2011 (GMT)

Main Category Changes

I've made a few changes to the main categories to hopefully make them a bit more IC / clear / fewer:

Relatively minor things, but I think it's an improvement. Orphaea Imperium 04:01, 2 March 2011 (GMT)

Also removed the Category: Raw Materials link and added Category: Items. Orphaea Imperium 10:45, 2 March 2011 (GMT)

New Design

I went ahead and redesigned the main page in the same manner as Wikipedia. I'm sure there could be some tweaks, e.g. I can't get the content of the two columns to automatically align to the top of the formatting table rather than spreading out and centring (as they're doing now), and images for the categories to go with the links, but in all I think it's an improvement on what we had before.

I didn't add an 'In The News' section or equivalent. I'm concerned that if we do have one, we'll have issues working out what we should put in it (e.g. every two-bit faction might want their minor news going in alongside reports of major battles), so it'd be better to avoid that by not having that option to begin with. Besides, I figure we have a place for that already. Orphaea Imperium 10:50, 2 March 2011 (GMT)

Why not using a RSS reader wiki plugin and have the GNS news also available on this page ? It could improve the bonds between the site and the Holocron. Veynom 16:49, 2 March 2011 (GMT)
This sounds like an excellent idea.--Dreighton 18:27, 2 March 2011 (GMT)
If we can make it look like the rest of the wiki (rather than just having an iframe or something similar), I'm all for it. Orphaea Imperium 16:17, 4 March 2011 (GMT)
the box on the far right with this week in history etc. the blue is way too bright and dosn't go with the rest of the template. Horthon Gorthy 15:34, 8 March 2011 (GMT)

Can I suggest that on the left side that Navigation goes first and then the swcombine link box second. Horthon Gorthy 15:33, 8 March 2011 (GMT)

That may be an option, but only, if the wiki guide makes the same changes, we want the emnues to be as similar a spossible. I slightly prefer it as it is now, it seems more logical to me to put the SWC menu on top, but if we have a majority who wnats the change, I'd talk to Jenos, if we can cahnge it on both wikis.--Dreighton 19:54, 8 March 2011 (GMT)
I agree with Horthon. I expect the top menu to be relevant to the wiki itself, and links to SWC should be secondary. --Alex Tylger 20:41, 8 March 2011 (GMT)
Would it be possible to hack the MediaWiki template so that the usual top link 'banner' section that's on the SWC site proper would also appear on wiki pages? That would remove the need for having a left aligned SWC link section at all. Orphaea Imperium 02:50, 9 March 2011 (GMT)
Excellent idea, I'm sure it's possible Horthon Gorthy 02:58, 9 March 2011 (GMT)
I am less sure. :) Actually this is what I tried first, but it turned out to be a lot more difficult than I expected. Of course it can be done, but I simply decided it wasn't worth it to invest more time into it. The hard part is actually not getting the top menu to the top of the wiki page, the hard part is how to move the links on top of the wiki page and to stop the SWC top menu from messing up the layout. I am not adamantly opposed to giving it another go, but I have to say that the sidebar as it is now is in effect more appealing to me than teh swc top menu on top of the wiki page. It looked like it didn't belog there (which it didn't).

Changes in Location due to Galaxy 2.0

Since I have no idea on the exact procedure we're following concerning the out-of-date Galaxy 1.0 references, I've compiled some of Galaxy 2.0 changes mentioned in various conflicts just in case. I think we need a coherent policy concerning what to do with future articles that include Galaxy 1.0 references such as deleting referred location or redirecting it to one that corresponds to it.

Dellalt (System) -> Voss (System) - mentioned in Dellalt Conflict
Adval (Planet) -> Inat Major (Planet) - mentioned in GNS broadcast concerning the FFA-Aurodium War
Fwiis (Planet) -> Hypori Minor (Planet) - mentioned in GNS broadcast concerning the FFA-Aurodium War
Pzat (Planet) -> Pybus IV (Planet) - mentioned in Outer Rim War
Pzech (Planet) -> Fusai (Planet) - mentioned in Outer Rim War
Bararyn (Planet) -> Bilbringi IV (Planet) - mentioned in Outer Rim War
Celetillian (Planet) -> Jiroch-Celetillian (Planet) - mentioned in Outer Rim War
Seswenna (Sector) -> unknown if any changes - mentioned in Third Imperial Civil War
Uvena (System) -> unknown if any changes - mentioned in Third Imperial Civil War
Berchest (System) -> Glithnos (System) - mentioned in Battle of Berchest
Loronar (System) -> Ank Kit`aar (System) - mentioned in Battle of Beta
Dressel (System) -> Voktunma (System) - mentioned in Battle of Dressel
Tenax -> unknown - listed as a battle for the Second Galactic Civil War, likely a battle in the Deep Core according to GE wiki
Calaron (Sector) -> Mytaranor (Sector) - listed as a battle for the Second Galactic Civil War, most of the systems in the former Calaron Sector corresponds to Mytaranor
Meridian (Sector) -> unknown - mentioned in Battle of Meridian, likely split up by Galaxy 2.0
Nam Chorios (Planet) -> Lantillies (Planet) - mentioned in Battle of Meridian
Hord Chorios (Planet) -> Lantillies I (Planet) - mentioned in Battle of Meridian
Chorios (System) -> Lantillies (System) - mentioned in Battle of Meridian
Damonite Kors A -> Sty - mentioned in Battle of Meridian
Damonite Kors B -> Tholatin VII - mentioned in Battle of Meridian
Damonite Fors A -> Kallalarra - mentioned in Battle of Meridian
Dostra (System) -> Broest (System) - mentioned in Battle of Dostra
Adlentar (Planet) -> Cadezia (Planet) - mentioned in Battle of Adlentar
N'zoth (System) -> either current N'zoth (System), controlled by Aurodium or current Rehemsa (System), controlled by GE - mentioned in Battle of N'zoth
M'buh (Planet) -> Byllura VII (Planet) - mentioned in Battle of N'zoth, likely split up from N'zoth above
Sacorria (Planet) -> Callos VII (Planet) - mentioned in Battle of Sacorria
Losval (Planet) -> Ord Ibanna I (Planet) - listed as a Black Sun / Galactic Alliance Conflict in the infobox
Ptera (System) -> Yavin (System) - mentioned in Corporate Sector Authority(Years 11-12) Flax (Planet) -> Torque (Planet) - mentioned in Corporate Sector Authority(Years 11-12)

--Raith Starlight 19:06, 15 October 2011 (GMT)

Sections

At the moment I have featured articles intended to be weekly. Over time, as we accumulate more quality articles, we can look at making it daily. Similarly the history section, as we fill out more information we will hopefully form a more developed and complete history of events, which may let us do daily rather than weekly histories as well. DYN will be largely whatever we find from random articles when we're writing it for that week. Orphaea Imperium 12:41, 2 March 2011 (GMT)

I really, really like the new main page. :) Veynom 16:50, 2 March 2011 (GMT)
Me too. :))--Dreighton 18:27, 2 March 2011 (GMT)

Updates, Year 13, Day 232

Hope nobody minds but I updated the main page as best I could with some new stuff. I'll be working on this a lot more in an attempt to clean it up and streamline it. Nankil Kolt 05:59, 20 July 2012 (GMT)

Rename Week to Month

Alex Tylger and I conversed on IRC. He suggested that "This Week In History" and "This Week's Featured Article" be changed to month given the limited content of the Holocron. I wholly agree as the Front Page is rarely updated. It would be more accurate and realistic to have a "This Month in History" or "This Month's Featured Article." Thoughts? Criticisms? -- Rupert Havok

Obviously in agreement. ;) --Alex Tylger 23:07, 24 July 2012 (GMT)
Also in agreement. If we aren't going to update weekly, then might as well be accurate about it. --Raith Starlight 23:49, 24 July 2012 (GMT)