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Please add a Navy/Army equivalence summary table. Veynom 11:35, 2 May 2011 (GMT)

You mean something like following table?
Common military ranks in Basic
Navies Armies Air forces
Officers
Admiral of
the Fleet
Marshal /
Field Marshal
Marshal of
the Air Force
Admiral General Air Marshal
Commodore Brigadier Air Commodore
Captain Colonel Group Captain
Commander Lieutenant Colonel Wing Commander
Lieutenant
Commander
Major /
Commandant
Squadron
Leader
Lieutenant Captain Flight Lieutenant
Sub-Lieutenant Lieutenant Flying Officer
Ensign 2nd Lieutenant Pilot Officer
Midshipman Officer Cadet Officer Cadet
Seamen, soldiers and airmen
Warrant Officer Sergeant Major Warrant Officer
Petty Officer Sergeant Sergeant
Leading Seaman Corporal Corporal
Seaman Private Aircraftman
shamelessly stolen from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Military_ranks and naturally would need to be adopted for our purposes...
--Xanyarr Chyakk 14:35, 2 May 2011 (GMT)
If I had known how to do a table, I'd have done such a table myself. Brilliant idea.
And I'll edit the page tomorrow, since the seniority mentions are not necessary as the ranks are "in ascending order"...
King, Viceroy etc. will get their own page (tomorrow) as "Topmost Rank" or something like that.

- Kinsa Rha, 2.05.2011, 19:11 GMT

You got it. :) Veynom 19:56, 2 May 2011 (GMT)

There is a nice article for Admiral. Should we maybe use that as a model? Or link to a good page like this from the rank page where it exists?--Dreighton 22:00, 5 May 2011 (GMT)

Brilliant article. You're right, this could be used as a fine model. - Kinsa Rha, 6.05.2011, 06:59 GMT
And would also be a good argument for separate rank pages, otherwise this page will be somewhat cumbersome (for the lack of a better word). --Xanyarr Chyakk 11:48, 6 May 2011 (GMT)

Necessary?

We should get rid of this page. It serves no purpose other than to be a nightmare to try and keep up to date.

There's no certain comparative similarities between ranks in different factions or within the same faction over a period of time, and it's impossible to make such a judgment without some knowledge of how those ranks are used in those factions (which not many people will have, and knowledge of which can easily become out of date). The page is riddled with e.g. 'Sergeant (known as Soldatti or Ciavutti in Black Sun)'. Who came up with that equivalent? Is it real or just someone trying to make sense of apples and oranges? Another example, the Republic has eleven military ranks; the Empire has nineteen from memory. In real terms, a Republican Naval Lieutenant JG is equivalent to an Imperial Flight Corporal or Sergeant, yet this page makes no distinction between them.

If there was any relative consistency between ranks (as there is in real militarties/governments), maybe a page like this could work. In SWC, where we make up whatever ranks we want, it's not going to work without being some hideous mash of ranks and edit wars started by people who think they have a better idea of how to convert a faction using a ten-rank system to compare to a faction using a twenty-five-rank system.

If rank pages are something we want to look at, we should look at pages like e.g. Ranks of the Galactic Empire, and then we can go from there. Orphaea Imperium 13:02, 6 May 2011 (GMT)