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- Squall is indeed correct. Squall as you know was head of the FF Army at the time, and one of Kuraine's loyal supporters. What I need to make very clear from the start is that IC,  
 
- Squall is indeed correct. Squall as you know was head of the FF Army at the time, and one of Kuraine's loyal supporters. What I need to make very clear from the start is that IC,  
  
Tholin was the founder of the Federation and its first sovereign. As a former [[Black Sun]] Vigo, he was accustomed to behind the scenes power-plays and negotiations. Tholin believed that Kuraine — at that time, a wealthy individual — could increase the standing of the impoverished Falleen Federation. As a result, Tholin abdicated and named Kuraine as his heir. He allowed Kuraine to marry his daughter, [Ed: Kalina Ulaeri?], with the intention of manipulating the young king and continuing to control the Federation. In this manner, Kuraine's considerable personal wealth was thus incorporated into the Federation. However, Tholin began to lose control of Kuraine's actions; in particular, Kuraine began to elevate his own loyal supporters — such as [[Squall Chitose]], [[Bisz Aldaris]], and [[Ruuyjin]] — to positions of power within the Federation.
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Tholin was the founder of the Federation and its first sovereign. As a former [[Black Sun]] Vigo, he was accustomed to behind the scenes power-plays and negotiations. Tholin believed that Kuraine — at that time, a wealthy individual — could increase the standing of the impoverished Falleen Federation. As a result, Tholin abdicated and named Kuraine as his heir. He allowed Kuraine to marry his daughter, Kalina Ulaeri, with the intention of manipulating the young king and continuing to control the Federation. In this manner, Kuraine's considerable personal wealth was thus incorporated into the Federation. However, Tholin began to lose control of Kuraine's actions; in particular, Kuraine began to elevate his own loyal supporters — such as [[Squall Chitose]], [[Bisz Aldaris]], and [[Ruuyjin]] — to positions of power within the Federation.
  
 
At this time, Tholin was the second most powerful individual within the kingdom, while his blood-brother [[Jace Meridan]] was the third most powerful. When word of Kuraine's assassination went through, Tholin discovered that Kuraine had set-in-motion a caretaker arrangement where — contrary to the constitution — the Minister of Culture Ruuyjin became the interim leader. Ruuyjin was a a minor functionary and a staunch Kuraine loyalist. Given Tholin's implication in Kuraine's death, Ruuyjin (a female ?) selected in the space of a few hours a third neutral party, Bisz Aldaris, to lead the Federation.
 
At this time, Tholin was the second most powerful individual within the kingdom, while his blood-brother [[Jace Meridan]] was the third most powerful. When word of Kuraine's assassination went through, Tholin discovered that Kuraine had set-in-motion a caretaker arrangement where — contrary to the constitution — the Minister of Culture Ruuyjin became the interim leader. Ruuyjin was a a minor functionary and a staunch Kuraine loyalist. Given Tholin's implication in Kuraine's death, Ruuyjin (a female ?) selected in the space of a few hours a third neutral party, Bisz Aldaris, to lead the Federation.
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When the GE reneged on respecting Federation Neutrality (primarily due to Bisz Aldaris ascension (a former Rebel Alliance Admiral as King was no guarantee) -  
 
When the GE reneged on respecting Federation Neutrality (primarily due to Bisz Aldaris ascension (a former Rebel Alliance Admiral as King was no guarantee) -  
- and the failure of Tholin and Jace to consolidate power - The GE started the genocide of Lornor. Jace died manning the defenses on Libra station against the Imperial onslaught, while Tholin lead a squadron of Z-95s in combat against the Empire. Bisz allowed Tholin to withdraw, and Tholin was tried for regicide - a trial that was never followed through, as no one had the stomach to incriminate the founder of their nation. Kuraine Loyalists continued to seek retribution, but Tholin was protected by Bisz. eventually and momentarily joining his government as a minister.
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- and the failure of Tholin and Jace to consolidate power - The GE started the genocide of Lornor. Jace died manning the defenses on Libra station against the Imperial onslaught, while Tholin lead a squadron of Z-95 Headhunters in combat against the Empire. Bisz allowed Tholin to withdraw, and Tholin was tried for regicide - a trial that was never followed through, as no one had the stomach to incriminate the founder of their nation. Kuraine Loyalists continued to seek retribution, but Tholin was protected by Bisz. eventually and momentarily joining his government as a minister.
  
  

Revision as of 15:24, 5 May 2013

Personal Notes For Article Rewrite

1.) Regarding Bisz Aldaris: Could you provide me with further details about the "second mini-coup" after Kuraine's death? How did that exactly happen? Squall Chitose indicated that Bisz wasn't the highest ranking FF officer at the time and that a third person named "Ruuyjin" was somehow instrumental in Bisz becoming leader after Kuraine's death. Is this true?

- Squall is indeed correct. Squall as you know was head of the FF Army at the time, and one of Kuraine's loyal supporters. What I need to make very clear from the start is that IC,

Tholin was the founder of the Federation and its first sovereign. As a former Black Sun Vigo, he was accustomed to behind the scenes power-plays and negotiations. Tholin believed that Kuraine — at that time, a wealthy individual — could increase the standing of the impoverished Falleen Federation. As a result, Tholin abdicated and named Kuraine as his heir. He allowed Kuraine to marry his daughter, Kalina Ulaeri, with the intention of manipulating the young king and continuing to control the Federation. In this manner, Kuraine's considerable personal wealth was thus incorporated into the Federation. However, Tholin began to lose control of Kuraine's actions; in particular, Kuraine began to elevate his own loyal supporters — such as Squall Chitose, Bisz Aldaris, and Ruuyjin — to positions of power within the Federation.

At this time, Tholin was the second most powerful individual within the kingdom, while his blood-brother Jace Meridan was the third most powerful. When word of Kuraine's assassination went through, Tholin discovered that Kuraine had set-in-motion a caretaker arrangement where — contrary to the constitution — the Minister of Culture Ruuyjin became the interim leader. Ruuyjin was a a minor functionary and a staunch Kuraine loyalist. Given Tholin's implication in Kuraine's death, Ruuyjin (a female ?) selected in the space of a few hours a third neutral party, Bisz Aldaris, to lead the Federation.

2. Jace Meridan and Tholin were blood-brothers and were always united in purpose. Jace had began his career in the Empire, and aligned himself with Tholin quite early on. Tholin had always maintained direct communication and even at times alliances with the Galactic Empire. He had never considered them a mortal enemy despite the occupation that had resulted in the war of independence. Tholin's perspective was that, if he needed to make friends with a former enemy to secure the liberation of his people, he would. He regularly manipulated both the Rebel Alliance and the Empire, or worked them against the other — seeing himself and the original Tri-Star Alliance (Hapes, New Anzat Order and the Falleen Federation) as the third power block, neither aligned to nor with the GE or RA. As a result of this, the FF had a small war with the Rebel Alliance, against a fleet led by then Rebel Alliance Supreme Commander Davyk Lysander, a member of Tholin's clan who never forgave the Empire. Jace often spoke to the Empire on behalf of Tholin and served as Tholin's direct line of communication to Emperor Uebles. It was via Jace that Tholin requested the assistance of the Sith assassins. [Ed: This would indicate the Imperial agent working for Vodo was Jace.] Tholin never considered the Empire an ally, per se, nor did he ever give up Federation's independence. The bargain struck by Tholin - knowing the duplicity of the GE, was always an independent but neutral third party. Kuraine, allied with Lysander, had turned the Federation into a Pro Alliance, and Anti Empire faction - with resources. It was this that motivated Tholin and Jace to conspire to murder Kuraine - an attempt to return the Federation to Neutrality. It should be noted that Bisz Aldaris was a former Rebel Alliance Admiral - and Tholin had always considered him Honorable (hence the later entent between the two).

Jace Meridan and Myself both participated in the capture of Shadowstone - though I was part of the space support fleet rather than the incursion party. Jace and I had actually manufactured Moff Vir Calder's defection - not kuraine - though the capture of Shadowstone was purely of Kuraine's design. Our actions on the Shadowstone were an attempt to minimize FF casualty whilst sabotaging the attempt at capture - knowing it would be a severe escalation in the GE/FF conflict - something they wanted to avoid. Clearly this failed.

When the GE reneged on respecting Federation Neutrality (primarily due to Bisz Aldaris ascension (a former Rebel Alliance Admiral as King was no guarantee) - - and the failure of Tholin and Jace to consolidate power - The GE started the genocide of Lornor. Jace died manning the defenses on Libra station against the Imperial onslaught, while Tholin lead a squadron of Z-95 Headhunters in combat against the Empire. Bisz allowed Tholin to withdraw, and Tholin was tried for regicide - a trial that was never followed through, as no one had the stomach to incriminate the founder of their nation. Kuraine Loyalists continued to seek retribution, but Tholin was protected by Bisz. eventually and momentarily joining his government as a minister.


3. Tholin was not on Libra station when Kuraine was assassinated, Tholin was in the cockpit of his Z-95 and in combat at the time. Tholin and Jace simultaneously issued the order to stand down to the Federation and its allies, and attempted to gain control of the government - clearly not possible given the events back on Falleen. The reality is, OOC we were beaten by the tools of the game, and had a lengthy discussion with Admin regarding the transfer of power as a result of a white scenario. eventually the game mechanism won out.

Tholin never provided the locations of all Federation military assets to the Galactic Empire, the only thing he did provide were security codes and location in order to target Kuraine.


Although some detractors claim Tholin betrayed Kuraine, Tholin never considered Kuraine's assassination as a betrayal. As far as Tholin was concerned, the Federation was still his to do with as he willed. He made Kuraine, and he reserved the right to remove him. His intention was to protect the Federation's neutrality. Kuraine had turned the kingdom into a Rebel Alliance vassal that was about to suffer the biggest Imperial invasion that the galaxy had ever seen.

Tholin always said, he traded Kuraine's life and the Loronar system for the survival of the Federation - and whilst he didn't lead the Federation after his exile - The Federations subsequent growth and golden age would never have been possible. The Empire had planned to invade Falleen itself as punishment for Shadowstone - an action that did not occur after the Battle of Beta. The continued conquest of the Federation was entirely within their capability - the Federation Fleet was battered, her allies had fled - yet the empire did not press its advantage.

So in summary - Up until Kuraine - Tholin and the Empire had an undeclared entente. Tholin sought to re-establish this balance, and simultaneously retake his throne.


Well - I hope that helps to start with! Jace, Pixelor Xess (Now Tyriss Haxim) Jado Dur'Rick, MeXecuter and all our allies always made a distinction between Kuraine and the FF. He was a temporary puppet - betraying him, was not betraying the Federation.


ive just read in detail your summary of the Battle of Beta - there are a few inconsistencies I would gladly help sort out.

A few minor things, Bisz wasn't elected, there was a second mini coup - Tholin and Jace actually fought in the subsequent battle against the GE at beta, which is when Jace died - on Libra station.

The Empire didn't seek me out, I sought them out - and there was never any talk of the Federation being a satellite or subordinate state. To say I was a Falleen noble is understating it - I was the Founder of the Falleen Federation and its first king - and had abdicated in favor of Kuraine - so seeing him destroy the federation was my motivation for his removal.


Yes my daughter was Kalina. Ruuyjin's characters first name started with an M I want to say Miru... and she was a human race - Corellian or Hapan I believe.

The Trandoshen General MeXecuter, Jado Dur'rik, Dash Raltar are the additional ones I can remember.