Talk:Main Page

2015

Image Size

As most have noticed images got a little wonky and will not resize since the server switch, can we put up a notice for people to resize it themselves and then re-upload the image? Venari Haliat 18:03, 11 January 2016 (CST)

Is there something that can be done "automatically" with images? Resizing each image in the Holocron manually would be long and messy. Perhaps there is a module or update of the wiki software that can solve the issue? --Ruben Wan 12:05, 13 February 2016 (CST)

You could wrap the images in DIV tags and set max-width to a percentage. -- Rupert

Thanks Rupert, but this would mean to resize each one manually. Now, is it possible that something that was done automatically must now be done manually for the switch with the new server? Isn't it possible, instead, that a module, a plugin, or some configuration file be twiked for the automatic size to happen? --Ruben Wan 17:49, 20 February 2016 (CST)

I'm sure there must be some way to fix it, but I'm only a fellow editor like yourself. I think we're all patiently waiting for (the greatly overworked) Selatos to find a way to fix the issue. The reason I haven't pressed the subject in forum threads is that Selatos and others have more important issues on their plates right now. --- Rupert Havok

Thank you, that's not urgent. I hoped Dreighton was still around for the wiki. ;) --Ruben Wan 20:48, 21 February 2016 (CST)

Asset Names

Been seeing a few articles where people are adding specific ships to the ship pages. Just want to want sure that we indicate why a ship is famous other than "a faction/player owns it". If it had a key role in a battle or other major event, then that merits an entry. Just my thoughts.

2014

Front page "Did You Know" about NR elections not correct anymore?

I was wondering since the front page says, "...that Taka Aioko was the only Chief of State of the New Republic to run twice and win both elections?" if this is no longer correct now that Ro Ru Wok has won for a second time? Granted, his first term was to finish Kara DuMonte's term, but doesn't that still count as an election since there was campaigning and voting involved? --Het Patchateeka 02:31, 19 December 2014 (GMT)

Religions, Deities, etc

I was wondering and wanting other people opinions on whether or not there should be pages for the various deities that characters 'worship' in RP whether they are already Star Wars Canon or not. Venari Haliat 02:57, 13 September 2014 (GMT)

If a religion is connected to a specific race, add it to that race's page. If it is connected to the Force, add it to the force. Otherwise, create a page for it and indicate whether it is or is not a faction in the database by using the appropriate template. Deities are considered part of a Religion and should be included wherever you made the entry for the religion, not their own separate page. Simply make any link to the Deity a redirect to the religion entry. As long as those, and the other rules of creating articles are followed, I see no problem since SWC canon is by definition different than Lucasfilm canon. - Prard`aga Rono 03:08, 13 September 2014 (GMT)

I agree with Prard`aga Rono. Keeping things simple is always the best choice: if the religion is not connected to another page (race or Force), then it becomes a single page. Deities must be listed in the relevant wiki page. --Ruben Wan 13:56, 13 September 2014 (GMT)

How to name pages of organisations with same name, different infoboxes

Hello, I have a problem and need advice. The current page about The Octagon League refers to the old faction, with its infobox stating founding and dissolving dates.
Now, another faction with the same name has been founded, and should have its own distinct page with different infobox. How should the new faction page be named? "The Octagon League (refunded)" or "The Octagon League 2" or else? --Ruben Wan 11:27, 16 May 2014 (GMT)

I think "The Octagon League should refer to the current faction, while the faction that dissolved, should be the one that receives a different name like "The Octagon League(Year 13)". Add the standard "You may be looking for" text to link to the other one, and your set. This emphasizes an existing faction, while providing an option for anyone searching for the old group.--Prard`aga Rono 13:42, 16 May 2014 (GMT)

Thanks for your advice, and to Almas Tarthul for having created the new page. I'm working on this now that everything is settled. :-) --Ruben Wan 13:50, 16 May 2014 (GMT)

I also second the opinion that the name with date should refer to the current incarnation. It makes keeping track easier that way and if a faction is recreated, page on original gets moved to the name plus date created --Raith Starlight 01:08, 17 May 2014 (GMT)

I apologize for the change I made then, and shall revert it. I suppose I should have checked here first. --Evelyn Reighner 03:36, 17 May 2014 (GMT)

Wild Space Definition?

I want as much input on this before moving forward.

Vote Now!:http://holocron.swcombine.com/wiki/Talk:Wild_Space

I am keeping voting open until the end of the Month. - Prard`aga Rono 02:23, 13 September 2014 (GMT)

2013

Creatures

Shouldn't there be creature pages? I would do it if I know how to make a infobox. Rakton Sidonus 04:20, 20 October 2013 (GMT)

2012

Did you know... not IC

In the box currently shown in the Main Page there is a sentence which has been taken from the SW Essential Atlas and not from the SWC IC world (in that case, the NR website).

Did You Know...
...the Nikto are split into five distinct sub-species that all originated from a dying star's massive swell of radiation?
...that Corvis Orion, Dark Prince of the Black Sun, was formerly a senior military and intelligence officer with the SoroSuub Corporation and New Republic?
...by New Republic law, in state of emergency, an appointed governor-general coordinates military actions with the Senator of a troubled sector?
...Ithorians hail from the Ottega star system, in the Lesser Plooriod Cluster? 

The New Republic has no governor-general, nor there is a law stating that. Laws can be found here: http://www.new-republic.org.uk/pmwiki/pmwiki.php?n=Main.Laws —Unsigned comment by Ruben Wan (talk • contribs).

Removed that line. --Xesh Randell 12:02, 10 September 2012 (GMT)

Updates, Year 13, Day 232

Hope nobody minds but I updated the main page as best I could with some new stuff. I'll be working on this a lot more in an attempt to clean it up and streamline it. Nankil Kolt 05:59, 20 July 2012 (GMT)

Thanks a lot for updating the content, it is appreciated. But I honestly liked the old look better. Mostly I really, really do not like all the black. I found the grey a lot easier to read. The headlines where standing out more clearly and I find white on black really painfull to read, physically. If we make any changes to the color scheme from what it looked like we should make rather make it resemble more clsoels the SWC main color scheme, as the holocron in genral aims to do. Now it is really a minor thing, if everyone happens to love black, I am fine with it, but I am wodnering, if I am the only one who is not convinced by the new color scheme.--Dreighton 20:48, 31 July 2012 (GMT)

Reverted! Sorry about that, was mucking about with colours. :) Nankil Kolt 01:47, 1 August 2012 (GMT)

I agree with Dreighton. I liked all your updates, Nankil, except the color change. Also, in general, I think Holocron editors need to standardize the colors of the templates to match the existing SWC theme. Template:Gov-Anzatan-Commonwealth is a prime example of garish colors that don't match the wiki. -- Rupert Havok 01:52, 1 August 2012 (GMT)

Rename Week to Month

Alex Tylger and I conversed on IRC. He suggested that "This Week In History" and "This Week's Featured Article" be changed to month given the limited content of the Holocron. I wholly agree as the Front Page is rarely updated. It would be more accurate and realistic to have a "This Month in History" or "This Month's Featured Article." Thoughts? Criticisms? -- Rupert Havok

Obviously in agreement. ;) --Alex Tylger 23:07, 24 July 2012 (GMT)

Also in agreement. If we aren't going to update weekly, then might as well be accurate about it. --Raith Starlight 23:49, 24 July 2012 (GMT)

Definitely agree; when I updated the main page I realized how little content there was and thought something similar. Let's do it! Nankil Kolt 23:54, 24 July 2012 (GMT)

Agree.--Dreighton 20:40, 31 July 2012 (GMT)

Page Naming Convention for Weekly to Monthly Timeline/Featured Article

Currently we have pages named like this Holocron:This Week in History/Day 132 or Holocron:Featured Articles/Day 132 for the old weekly TWIH/TWFA. I couldn't find any references to Star Wars month names, so should we change these page names to Holocron:This Month in History/2012/January? Bit OOC but easy for us to keep track of where we are. Thoughts? Nankil Kolt 01:57, 1 August 2012 (GMT)

Just to add to that, I fiddled with the Featured Article page and have examples for July and August as to how the articles would be stored, like so: Holocron:Featured Articles/2012/August, so that this page can be more organised for historical purposes. Thoughts? Nankil Kolt 03:07, 1 August 2012 (GMT)

2011

Templates and categories

We should be glad for every good template we get. If we have conflicting templates or categories I suggest a vote between the two of them. But people should be allowed to create them in the first place.--Dreighton 17:02, 22 February 2011 (GMT)

In my experience handling wikis, for every good template you'll go through three people making terrible ones. Then when we're having people copy things without looking from other wikis, they'll also bring along different templates, which creates inconsistency. If people want to use templates that's well and fine, but it needs some kind of order to it otherwise you'll have competing ones and no resolution because it will constantly reoccur. Orphaea Imperium 17:05, 22 February 2011 (GMT)

I agree that the process of improving them and replacing less good designs with better once can be time consuming and tedious. As a resolution in case of conflict I just suggested a vote. Often this will not even be necessary, if you give some time for people to find the better solution. Inconsistincies don't concern me. For sure not at this point. Why is it important that all templates are exactly the same or following the same pattern, especially if sometimes the differences are very small? What I am advocating is to encourage people to get involved in making things better. This includes encouraging them to consider an alternative template and not just mindlessly stick to just what they already know. Or take the time to add good templates to articles that use insuficient ones.--Dreighton 17:14, 22 February 2011 (GMT)

Main Category Changes

I've made a few changes to the main categories to hopefully make them a bit more IC / clear / fewer:

• Emptied Category: Locations in favour of Category: Galaxy (being that all locations will be in the galaxy)
• Emptied Category: Individuals in favour of Category: People - I think it sounds better and is more appropriate
• Made Category: Families a subcategory of Category: People rather than having it a main category on its own.

Relatively minor things, but I think it's an improvement. Orphaea Imperium 04:01, 2 March 2011 (GMT)

Also removed the Category: Raw Materials link and added Category: Items. Orphaea Imperium 10:45, 2 March 2011 (GMT)

New Design

I went ahead and redesigned the main page in the same manner as Wikipedia. I'm sure there could be some tweaks, e.g. I can't get the content of the two columns to automatically align to the top of the formatting table rather than spreading out and centring (as they're doing now), and images for the categories to go with the links, but in all I think it's an improvement on what we had before.

I didn't add an 'In The News' section or equivalent. I'm concerned that if we do have one, we'll have issues working out what we should put in it (e.g. every two-bit faction might want their minor news going in alongside reports of major battles), so it'd be better to avoid that by not having that option to begin with. Besides, I figure we have a place for that already. Orphaea Imperium 10:50, 2 March 2011 (GMT)

Why not using a RSS reader wiki plugin and have the GNS news also available on this page ? It could improve the bonds between the site and the Holocron. Veynom 16:49, 2 March 2011 (GMT)

This sounds like an excellent idea.--Dreighton 18:27, 2 March 2011 (GMT)

If we can make it look like the rest of the wiki (rather than just having an iframe or something similar), I'm all for it. Orphaea Imperium 16:17, 4 March 2011 (GMT)

the box on the far right with this week in history etc. the blue is way too bright and dosn't go with the rest of the template. Horthon Gorthy 15:34, 8 March 2011 (GMT)

Can I suggest that on the left side that Navigation goes first and then the swcombine link box second. Horthon Gorthy 15:33, 8 March 2011 (GMT)

That may be an option, but only, if the wiki guide makes the same changes, we want the emnues to be as similar a spossible. I slightly prefer it as it is now, it seems more logical to me to put the SWC menu on top, but if we have a majority who wnats the change, I'd talk to Jenos, if we can cahnge it on both wikis.--Dreighton 19:54, 8 March 2011 (GMT)

I agree with Horthon. I expect the top menu to be relevant to the wiki itself, and links to SWC should be secondary. --Alex Tylger 20:41, 8 March 2011 (GMT)

Would it be possible to hack the MediaWiki template so that the usual top link 'banner' section that's on the SWC site proper would also appear on wiki pages? That would remove the need for having a left aligned SWC link section at all. Orphaea Imperium 02:50, 9 March 2011 (GMT)

Excellent idea, I'm sure it's possible Horthon Gorthy 02:58, 9 March 2011 (GMT)

I am less sure. :) Actually this is what I tried first, but it turned out to be a lot more difficult than I expected. Of course it can be done, but I simply decided it wasn't worth it to invest more time into it. The hard part is actually not getting the top menu to the top of the wiki page, the hard part is how to move the links on top of the wiki page and to stop the SWC top menu from messing up the layout. I am not adamantly opposed to giving it another go, but I have to say that the sidebar as it is now is in effect more appealing to me than teh swc top menu on top of the wiki page. It looked like it didn't belog there (which it didn't).

Changes in Location due to Galaxy 2.0

Since I have no idea on the exact procedure we're following concerning the out-of-date Galaxy 1.0 references, I've compiled some of Galaxy 2.0 changes mentioned in various conflicts just in case. I think we need a coherent policy concerning what to do with future articles that include Galaxy 1.0 references such as deleting referred location or redirecting it to one that corresponds to it.

Dellalt (System) -> Voss (System) - mentioned in Dellalt Conflict
Adval (Planet) -> Inat Major (Planet) - mentioned in GNS broadcast concerning the FFA-Aurodium War
Fwiis (Planet) -> Hypori Minor (Planet) - mentioned in GNS broadcast concerning the FFA-Aurodium War
Pzat (Planet) -> Pybus IV (Planet) - mentioned in Outer Rim War
Pzech (Planet) -> Fusai (Planet) - mentioned in Outer Rim War
Bararyn (Planet) -> Bilbringi IV (Planet) - mentioned in Outer Rim War
Celetillian (Planet) -> Jiroch-Celetillian (Planet) - mentioned in Outer Rim War
Seswenna (Sector) -> unknown if any changes - mentioned in Third Imperial Civil War
Uvena (System) -> unknown if any changes - mentioned in Third Imperial Civil War
Berchest (System) -> Glithnos (System) - mentioned in Battle of Berchest
Loronar (System) -> Ank Kit`aar (System) - mentioned in Battle of Beta
Dressel (System) -> Voktunma (System) - mentioned in Battle of Dressel
Tenax -> unknown - listed as a battle for the Second Galactic Civil War, likely a battle in the Deep Core according to GE wiki
Calaron (Sector) -> Mytaranor (Sector) - listed as a battle for the Second Galactic Civil War, most of the systems in the former Calaron Sector corresponds to Mytaranor
Meridian (Sector) -> unknown - mentioned in Battle of Meridian, likely split up by Galaxy 2.0
Nam Chorios (Planet) -> Lantillies (Planet) - mentioned in Battle of Meridian
Hord Chorios (Planet) -> Lantillies I (Planet) - mentioned in Battle of Meridian
Chorios (System) -> Lantillies (System) - mentioned in Battle of Meridian
Damonite Kors A -> Sty - mentioned in Battle of Meridian
Damonite Kors B -> Tholatin VII - mentioned in Battle of Meridian
Damonite Fors A -> Kallalarra - mentioned in Battle of Meridian
Dostra (System) -> Broest (System) - mentioned in Battle of Dostra
Adlentar (Planet) -> Cadezia (Planet) - mentioned in Battle of Adlentar
N'zoth (System) -> either current N'zoth (System), controlled by Aurodium or current Rehemsa (System), controlled by GE - mentioned in Battle of N'zoth
M'buh (Planet) -> Byllura VII (Planet) - mentioned in Battle of N'zoth, likely split up from N'zoth above
Sacorria (Planet) -> Callos VII (Planet) - mentioned in Battle of Sacorria
Losval (Planet) -> Ord Ibanna I (Planet) - listed as a Black Sun / Galactic Alliance Conflict in the infobox
Ptera (System) -> Yavin (System) - mentioned in Corporate Sector Authority(Years 11-12) Flax (Planet) -> Torque (Planet) - mentioned in Corporate Sector Authority(Years 11-12)

--Raith Starlight 19:06, 15 October 2011 (GMT)

Sections

At the moment I have featured articles intended to be weekly. Over time, as we accumulate more quality articles, we can look at making it daily. Similarly the history section, as we fill out more information we will hopefully form a more developed and complete history of events, which may let us do daily rather than weekly histories as well. DYN will be largely whatever we find from random articles when we're writing it for that week. Orphaea Imperium 12:41, 2 March 2011 (GMT)

I really, really like the new main page. :) Veynom 16:50, 2 March 2011 (GMT)

Me too. :))--Dreighton 18:27, 2 March 2011 (GMT)