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I have a few issues with both featured articles:
==Selection Process==
# Both articles that were featured so far had red links right on the main page, which is usually a bad style/example and one of the many things that stops articles from being showcased.
# Both articles were also imperial in their nature, and while they may be the most finished articles (due to being copied from somewhere else) I don't think it's a good for empire to "take over" the main page of the wiki.
# Nobody nominated any of the articles in question, Orphaea just did it on his own. At least I didn't see any discussion about it on the wiki. What's to stop anyone else with replacing any FAs with some other article, about their government or leader? There needs to be a nomination process, or we'll have an anarchy of all groups trying to get featured on main page. Or is "first come, first serve" desired outcome?
--[[User:Xanyarr Chyakk|Xanyarr Chyakk]] 12:06, 7 March 2011 (GMT)


:Agreed. However, I think it's fair to say the Holocron is still in its infancy as far as content goes, and the main page reflects this more than anything. Once more people start contributing on a regular basis, especially people who have knowledge and insight in to non-Imperial matters, the Holocron will hopefully appear less "side dominated." I figure at that point it'll be easier to nominate featured articles from all sides/aspects of the game. --[[User:Alex Tylger|Alex Tylger]] 15:22, 7 March 2011 (GMT)
As there was a general agreement that we need a more formal selection process (see below), from now on articles need to go through the following steps:


: I think Orphaea did a great job by making a new start page that imitates the look and features of Wikipedia. That is what counts at this point. I think we do not have many excellent articles by now, so I don't blame him for choosing the ones he selected. He could have chosen the article on his own character, btw, which is quite impressive. :) "What's to stop anyone else with replacing any FAs with some other article, about their government or leader?" - NOTHING. That's the whole point. If you know of a great article then feature it. If you have a good idea how a nomination process should work, feel free to implement it and we can test it. I am not really scared about "first come, first serve" at his point. We have maybe half a dozen people who contribute to the holocron on a meta level right now. If every one of them finds two or three articles to be featured, that would be great. I think right now this discussion page is enough to agree on a few things, e.g. how long an article should usually be featured. But even with this I would trust the common sense of people lie you and Alex. If the wiki and the number of contributers grows, we may need a procedure, so implementing and testing it now would be a good idea, but for now it should work if any of us selects any half way decent article as featured article every few days. The idea is to showcase the wiki and encourage people to explore it. --[[User:Dreighton|Dreighton]] 21:01, 7 March 2011 (GMT)
* Everyone can suggest articles, please enter them in the "Suggestions" section of this page. Put a link and sign your suggestion.
* On the 15th day of each month all current suggestions will be pasted to the "Vote" section. Every user can give support to one article every month. Every article can be discussed in the "Recent Discussion" section. The article that gets most votes on the 15th of next month will be featured next.  
* The article will be deleted from the "suggestions" list as soon as it is featured.--[[User:Dreighton|Dreighton]] 01:00, 17 April 2014 (GMT)
* Articles that have previously been featured should not be nominated again unless they have undergone ''significant'' changes since they were last featured. --[[User:Syn|Syn]] 02:24, 23 November 2017 (CST)


The articles where obviously chosen because they where the most complete at the time, I take no issue with that, though the red link aspect is a definite no no. In terms of nomination of articles this talk page should be enough. They can be nominated and consensus achieved here. [[User:Horthon Gorthy|Horthon Gorthy]] 15:30, 8 March 2011 (GMT)
==Suggestions==
 
In this section you can post candidates to be featured. Please do not discuss the suggestions here, so that the list stays short and crisp. You can use the "Recent Discussion" section to talk about articles that are currently voted on.--[[User:Dreighton|Dreighton]] 01:00, 17 April 2014 (GMT)
 
Please try to clean up red links in featured article suggestions, and nominate articles that have only minimal red links. -- [[User:Syn|Syn]] ([[User talk:Syn|talk]])
 
*[[Battle for Derra IV]]: [[User:Paul Luz]]
*[[Anzatan Commonwealth]]: [[User:Venari Haliat|Venari Haliat]] 00:35, 22 August 2016 (CDT)
*[[Third Imperial Civil War]]: [[User:Ubis Vrand|Ubis Vrand]] 06:44, 24 November 2017 (CST)
*[[Belloq Tull]]: [[User:Belloq Tull|Belloq Tull]] 10:27, 5 December 2017 (CST)
*[[Gabriella Storm]]: [[User:Ubis Vrand|Ubis Vrand]] 12:41, 29 March 2018 (CDT)
*[[Jaydon TaVolarian]]: [[User:Spree Razzix]] 11:42, 28 November 2018 (EST)
 
==Vote==
This is the vote for the featured article for next month:
 
 
==Next featured article==
 
==Article Suggestions - Discussion==
 
==Changing the presentation style of this page==
Rather than merely listing previous featured articles in chronological order, perhaps we should follow the example of Wikipedia's "Featured Articles" section. We could divide the articles chosen thus far into [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Today%27s_featured_article/October_2013 an Archive page] and also a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Featured_articles broader Categories] page... Thoughts? -- [[User:Rupert Havok|Rupert Havok]] 00:37, 15 October 2013 (GMT)
 
:It's an interesting idea. You sort of already did the Archive style, and though the broader categories would be a bit empty right now, over time that would flesh out a bit. So long as people are capable of finding featured articles with ease, I'd be supportive of it. -- [[User:Kyran Caelius|Kyran Caelius]] 20:16, 13 November 2013 (GMT)
 
:: We're doing monthly featured articles so we won't have that much clutter compared to Wikipedia. Like Kyran mentioned, if the interface for browsing is as smooth as Wikipedia's, then I support it as well. --[[User:Raith Starlight|Raith Starlight]] 16:46, 2 March 2014 (GMT)
 
== Suggested Clean-Up: Move the actual vote-casting to Vote:Holocron:Featured Articles and reserve this page for discussion. ==
 
Perhaps we should move the actual vote casting to [[Vote:Holocron:Featured Articles]] and reserve this page ([[Talk:Holocron:Featured Articles]]) solely for discussion/debate? Currently, this page is quite messy with the balloting process haphazardly occurring in the middle between other conversations. If we create [[Vote:Holocron:Featured Articles]], a "Vote" tab will automatically appear at the top of this page as a shortcut link, alongside the existing "Page," "Discussion," "History" tabs. I'm not suggesting a rule change, but a cleaner division between the voting and the debating. -- [[User:Rupert Havok|Rupert Havok]]
: Much easier if you keep the talk page for voting and clear it every month. [[User:Venari Haliat|Venari Haliat]] 03:49, 20 August 2015 (GMT)
: I'm all for cleaning this page up. [[User:Kyran Caelius|Kyran Caelius]] 14:15, 24 May 2016 (CDT)
:: I removed some of the outdated sections. Really, there's more content here that doesn't serve much purpose to keep, but we long as we're keeping the voting at the top and the discussion down below, this should be an improvement. --[[User:Syn|Syn]] 02:24, 23 November 2017 (CST)

Latest revision as of 13:09, 25 October 2020

Selection Process

As there was a general agreement that we need a more formal selection process (see below), from now on articles need to go through the following steps:

  • Everyone can suggest articles, please enter them in the "Suggestions" section of this page. Put a link and sign your suggestion.
  • On the 15th day of each month all current suggestions will be pasted to the "Vote" section. Every user can give support to one article every month. Every article can be discussed in the "Recent Discussion" section. The article that gets most votes on the 15th of next month will be featured next.
  • The article will be deleted from the "suggestions" list as soon as it is featured.--Dreighton 01:00, 17 April 2014 (GMT)
  • Articles that have previously been featured should not be nominated again unless they have undergone significant changes since they were last featured. --Syn 02:24, 23 November 2017 (CST)

Suggestions

In this section you can post candidates to be featured. Please do not discuss the suggestions here, so that the list stays short and crisp. You can use the "Recent Discussion" section to talk about articles that are currently voted on.--Dreighton 01:00, 17 April 2014 (GMT)

Please try to clean up red links in featured article suggestions, and nominate articles that have only minimal red links. -- Syn (talk)

Vote

This is the vote for the featured article for next month:


Next featured article

Article Suggestions - Discussion

Changing the presentation style of this page

Rather than merely listing previous featured articles in chronological order, perhaps we should follow the example of Wikipedia's "Featured Articles" section. We could divide the articles chosen thus far into an Archive page and also a broader Categories page... Thoughts? -- Rupert Havok 00:37, 15 October 2013 (GMT)

It's an interesting idea. You sort of already did the Archive style, and though the broader categories would be a bit empty right now, over time that would flesh out a bit. So long as people are capable of finding featured articles with ease, I'd be supportive of it. -- Kyran Caelius 20:16, 13 November 2013 (GMT)
We're doing monthly featured articles so we won't have that much clutter compared to Wikipedia. Like Kyran mentioned, if the interface for browsing is as smooth as Wikipedia's, then I support it as well. --Raith Starlight 16:46, 2 March 2014 (GMT)

Suggested Clean-Up: Move the actual vote-casting to Vote:Holocron:Featured Articles and reserve this page for discussion.

Perhaps we should move the actual vote casting to Vote:Holocron:Featured Articles and reserve this page (Talk:Holocron:Featured Articles) solely for discussion/debate? Currently, this page is quite messy with the balloting process haphazardly occurring in the middle between other conversations. If we create Vote:Holocron:Featured Articles, a "Vote" tab will automatically appear at the top of this page as a shortcut link, alongside the existing "Page," "Discussion," "History" tabs. I'm not suggesting a rule change, but a cleaner division between the voting and the debating. -- Rupert Havok

Much easier if you keep the talk page for voting and clear it every month. Venari Haliat 03:49, 20 August 2015 (GMT)
I'm all for cleaning this page up. Kyran Caelius 14:15, 24 May 2016 (CDT)
I removed some of the outdated sections. Really, there's more content here that doesn't serve much purpose to keep, but we long as we're keeping the voting at the top and the discussion down below, this should be an improvement. --Syn 02:24, 23 November 2017 (CST)
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